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12:13 amChris (talk/contribs)Whoa -- my "What's playing" page just went blank =( -- emptying my cache and reloading doesn't fix it either!
10:23 pmChris (talk/contribs)That's cool! Image:Clap2.gif
10:12 pmJim (talk/contribs)[http://events.adn.com/talkeetna-ak/venues/show/575750-whole-wheat-radio ADN (Anchorage Daily News) has a new events site etc. It's pretty well done. And they put our events in!  :-)
9:51 pmCub DriverHope to be in Talkeetna on Sunday Jim. Caiti is singing with Esther.
9:49 pmChris (talk/contribs)i'm doing pretty good :-)
9:47 pmJim (talk/contribs)Here's the accounting sheet in all its ugly glory:
9:47 pmJim (talk/contribs)Well, at least dancers are more fun than the house concert accounting sheet I've been updating and working on. This is part of the stuff that goes on behind the scenes with the shows. What fun! Image:Wink.gif
9:46 pmChris (talk/contribs)haha -- those are both much less spastic than the one Sol® posted
9:40 pmJim (talk/contribs)Or maybe Image:Ake_clip_big.gif
9:40 pmJim (talk/contribs)Image:685719088_l.gif
9:39 pmJim (talk/contribs)Well here are a bunch more dancers to choose from. Image:Smile.gif
9:30 pmChris (talk/contribs)I completely agree! Image:Smile.gif
9:16 pmScobey (talk/contribs)Ack! That dancer sucks!!
7:25 pmSol® (talk/contribs)Image:Seriousdancingboykw1.gif
5:52 pmCater (talk/contribs)Image:Goodnight.gif
5:26 pmCater (talk/contribs)How's Mrs. BR doing?
5:26 pmCater (talk/contribs)Good, just really busy this summer. Saw you were on Facebook today, meant to say hey, but didn't get a round tuit. Image:Stupid.gif
5:11 pmBlueRidge (talk/contribs)p.s. thank you :)
5:10 pmBlueRidge (talk/contribs)hey Cater :) Long time !!! How in the heck have you been?
5:06 pmCater (talk/contribs)Yup. Hey Randy Image:Hello.gif
5:05 pmCater (talk/contribs)the word c-u-r-s-o-n-g, isn't it? (L.a. Freeway / Keepers / Guy Clark)
5:02 pmBlueRidge (talk/contribs)how do you put current song in chat?
4:52 pmScobey (talk/contribs)(I'd Like To Know / Come Up Full / Meg Hutchinson) me me
4:45 pmKodiBear (talk/contribs)Thanks for all the responses earlier, I had to leave for a while. Looks like some of my images are gone I still have them somewhere on the computer. Thanks
4:04 pmScobey (talk/contribs)(Good Morning Love / Suka Bija / Jenelle Aubade) gulp
3:48 pmJim (talk/contribs)Wow Hoonah - that was a big bold move! Image:Thanks.gif Looks like that fixed it. It wasn't a big deal but just noticable in the error logs.
2:54 pmHoonah (talk/contribs)I switched over to Firefox 3.0. Hopefully that solved the requesting image problem.
2:50 pm12-stringer (talk/contribs)Is Alex Trebuchet still hosting Jeopardy!??
2:44 pmJim (talk/contribs)Image:Rotfl.gif at the "waking up flies" comments.
2:43 pmJim (talk/contribs)Hoonah - your browse is asking for a file called "Marblebg.jpg" repeatedly when it loads this page. I'm not sure why, but can you completely F5 Reload your browser? Thanks. That may or may not clear it up. I think your browser has cached a very old .css (style sheet) associated with this page???
2:43 pmCub DriverI'll leave any further WIKI questions to you guys. If you have any questions on trebuchets or other such stuff, call me.
2:42 pm12-stringer (talk/contribs)Image:Lol.gif glad to see we all finally woke up at the same time!
2:41 pmCub DriverWow! The flies landed on that one all at the same time. Image:Hehe.gif
2:40 pmCub DriverKodi, You can co to your "Contributions" page; select "Images" in the Namespace pull-down box, then hit go. I see that it comes up with only two images though.
2:39 pmJim (talk/contribs)Er, thanks 12 Image:Smile.gif I like your explanation better than mine.
2:39 pmJim (talk/contribs)KodiBear - click on your "contribs" link - it takes you to a page that shows everything you have done (contributions) on the site. You will see Images listed there. But note that images which are no longer being used are removed from the system on a regular basis. I have them all here as backups if there are just a few that you are searching for and you have a close filename or something that will help me locate them.
2:37 pm12-stringer (talk/contribs)@KodiBear: Go to your user page, then in the "toolbox" menu (left column, bottom) click "User contributions". From that page, in the "Namespace" pull-down menu, select "Image" and click the "Search" button. If what you're looking for isn't there, it may have been removed in the recent database purgings, in which case you may need to talk to Jim.
1:56 pmKodiBear (talk/contribs)Hello All! Is there a place I can find the images I have uploaded? Trying to redo my user page.
1:25 pmE.D. Egg (talk/contribs)Yup; Billy Jonas was funny and incredibly creative even in college.
1:21 pmJim (talk/contribs)Image:Smile.gif - I like your passion E.D. Egg. I was thinking that if Band is deleted, then if someone wants a show with a band, they will put exclude | Solo performer in the show. If that tag is used properly (i.e. one person ala this Billy Jonas song which is a hoot - was he funny in school?) then the band show will always have multiple people playing. But I'm not as passionate as you are - so it's interesting to see the various thoughts cuz ya'll often think of things I haven't even dreamed of.
1:20 pmKelli (talk/contribs)I never use it when requesting (I probably won’t even use Solo Performer), so I’m pretty ambivalent. I can see it being useful for others if we can agree on a definition.
1:16 pmE.D. Egg (talk/contribs)I went to college with Billy Jonas (God Is In / Live 8 Songs / Billy Jonas)
1:15 pmE.D. Egg (talk/contribs)No!!! don't delete Band! It's a really useful tag! (that's my quick electioneering plea). Isn't it useful to know when listening -- or creating a show -- whether an entity is actually a collection of people who play together?
1:14 pmKelli (talk/contribs)Several votes were after I added that option, so looks like delete is going to win. Unless we have some that haven't voted...
1:12 pmE.D. Egg (talk/contribs)Hey gang -- there's a new option for defining band, so even if you've already voted, head over there and see if you might prefer the new option . . .
12:57 pmBlueRidge (talk/contribs)Hi NT Image:Hello.gif
12:46 pmNorthisTexicus (talk/contribs)Hello, everyone.
12:31 pmJim (talk/contribs)I'm going to say it again for the umpteenth time ... I will not tolerate repeated written insults, cynicism, backhanded criticisms, etc. about this site morphing from a fun-n-games site to try to accomplish a tiny bit of serious mission while still having fun. If you don't like what's going on here, please go elsewhere where they have no mission except to play music.



These negative comments are directed at all of us who are working to build this resource - not just me. It's not a personal thing - it is an attitude of non-cooperation and negativity that will not be tolerated in light of the massive amounts of good work other people are doing and the devotion they have to the task. It's not one comment or one thing that sets this downward spiral off - it is repeated cynical or critical comments combined with a complete lack of contributing so much as a single tag, bio, video, lyric or anything remotely related to working independent musicians ... over a 3+ month period.

As those who originally discovered and got comfortable with WWR as a 100% fun-n-games and silly site realize those days are over, they can either adapt with a smile or sit there in judgment and throw stones at the rest of us. If the latter, they won't be throwing stones long. Bottom line: if you can't say anything nice about the mission then don't say anything at all. There are many many people who listen to WWR, support musicians by going to shows and otherwise further the mission ... and they don't find it necessary to leave wry or disparaging comments directed at the rest of us or what this site is trying to accomplish.

I'm sorry it comes to this, especially as I've always intensely disliked being "the cop" around here. We can still have a lot of fun and have a tighter community and more fulfilling internet experience than most sites offer but it will be based in our common labors and purpose and love of independent music and the musicians who make it. Those who cannot contribute are very welcome to watch from the sidelines but those who insist on berating the workers while doing no work themselves will not be tolerated. I don't care who you are or how much I may like you personally or have enjoyed your company online. If you feel the need to snipe and toss insults rather than contributing and/or opening up a serious discussion as so many others have concerning all sorts of topics, then you are not going to be happy here and need to recognize it's time to move on.

For those of you who choose to stay (which is the vast majority of people here - only two handfuls were not able to make the transition without becoming jaded) --- to those who understand and nod and are not afraid, thank you. A year from now, all these transition pains will be long behind us, a faint memory. I look forward to continuing to work with those who stay and those who are yet to walk in the door of the new WWR.
11:54 amScobey (talk/contribs)Image:Lol.gif
11:51 amHoonah (talk/contribs)That would be my cat Scobey. Good luck on the job hunt.
11:48 amScobey (talk/contribs)Job application just sent off. Could retire but wife says NOT!! And we all know who the boss is in our homes - right?!
11:47 amJim (talk/contribs)You have 5 minutes from when this comment posts to reply Lonedog or I deny you access permanently.
11:46 amScobey (talk/contribs)Thanks Kaz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11:45 am12-stringer (talk/contribs)For almost everyone, there inevitably comes a time when you must must toss your cookies.
11:44 amJim (talk/contribs)Lonedog - so I'll put it in writing. Do you want to "collaborate"? Are you interested in being a part of the mission of this site or not? If the answer is yes, then quit snipping about the "collaboration". Otherwise, I'll just help you by denying you access so you won't be tempted to continue snipping about the changes and the new mission of WWR. I will await your answer.
11:41 amKazookid (talk/contribs)Mert- I meant that someone tagged a Bearfoot tune that wasn't in any shape or form Bluegrass as a Blurgrass tune.
11:39 amKazookid (talk/contribs)Whenever it happens again, just repeat the process.
11:38 amKazookid (talk/contribs)Scobey, it is simple problem. Go to yourWWR "My Preferences" , scroll down until you come to a check box that says: "Remember my login on this computer" and check it. Then scroll down the page farther until you come to "Save Changes" and click on that. Presto, no more logging in all the time
11:37 amScobey (talk/contribs)Nope cookies not checked
11:37 amLonedog (talk/contribs)Just a joke, Jim.
11:36 amBlueRidge (talk/contribs)Jim my pin on map red....
11:34 amScobey (talk/contribs)I don't see where Firefox is deleting cookies.
11:33 amCater (talk/contribs)Did recipes get dumped? And Image:Hello.gif
11:32 amBlueRidge (talk/contribs)So I have rotten cookies?
11:27 amHexaba (talk/contribs)Missed it Lonedog - had to work and answer the phones.. damn it :)
11:26 amLonedog (talk/contribs)Hear that Hexy? . . . you're in trouble.
11:20 amBlueRidge (talk/contribs)I'm logged in....but my button is still Red....
11:19 amHexaba (talk/contribs)Hi Cub - nice shadow
11:16 amLonedog (talk/contribs)Got a "collaboration" window. Thought I'd take advantage of it. Hello old friends. Doing fine in Carolina.
11:14 amJim (talk/contribs)Scobey - the sign in is controlled via cookies. For some reason, your signin cookie is expiring every day (or more often). If you delete cookies on exiting your browser or have other things controlling your normal cookies, that's why you have to keep signing in.
11:09 amBlueRidge (talk/contribs)Image:Hello.gif Good Afternoon...or Good Morning.
11:08 amHoonah (talk/contribs)Looks more like a smirk to me Image:Wave.gif
11:07 amCub DriverHi Hexy! Good to see your smiling face. Image:Smile.gif
11:06 amCub DriverKaz Barefoot has dropped "Bluegrass" from their name because they are branching out musically.
11:04 amMert (talk/contribs)Sorry. Feeling a little dark today.
11:04 amHexaba (talk/contribs)Hello all :)
11:04 amMert (talk/contribs)Five bucks for an Irish jig.
11:03 amMert (talk/contribs)Perhaps Jake would like to invest in my Truth and Mobility Fund.
10:58 amScobey (talk/contribs)(Amber Dunes / Scratch Recordings / Stray Dogma)
10:57 amScobey (talk/contribs)Why do i have to sign in all the time???
10:57 amImage:24.237.40.249.jpg24.237.40.249 (talk/contribs)Stray Dogma will be in Anchorage on July 26!!! Woohoo!
10:49 amKelli (talk/contribs)Jake Armerding fans may be interested in this - http://www.jakearmerding.com/music/truthandbeauty.shtml
10:06 amKazookid (talk/contribs)(When You Say Nothing At All / Only Time Knows / Bearfoot Bluegrass) I certainly wouldn't call this bluegrass, or even newgrass for that matter.
6:43 amMert (talk/contribs)Would love to have heard Pete Morton ... Middle English.
6:39 amMert (talk/contribs)This folksy is good, just cleaned out my fountain pump, waiting for rain so I don't have to water. Looking gray.
6:38 amMert (talk/contribs)I'll look into R. Gonzales. Glad it was good, except for missing R. Shindell. Wonder if his fingers are insured? Hi, Kazook.
6:34 amKazookid (talk/contribs)How are all the Folksies today? Image:Hello.gif
6:00 amE.D. Egg (talk/contribs)And I wondered whether you knew of Raymond Gonzales (no music on WWR, alas, but I'll work on that) -- he's a fingerstyle guitarist who I've seen before but he really grew on me at this festival.
5:59 amE.D. Egg (talk/contribs)Festival was good. Rainy Saturday but lovely Sunday. No Richard Shindell, though, who had an axe/finger accident. One of the highlights was Pete Morton doing (some of) the history of Rock and Roll in Middle English
5:54 amMert (talk/contribs)Hey, Beth! Too bad, no CS smooch. How was the festival in general?
5:48 amE.D. Egg (talk/contribs)Oh, and Mert, I wasn't able to deliver your smooch to Chris Smither . . . had to leave right after his set. But I did appreciate him for you!
5:37 amE.D. Egg (talk/contribs)Mornin', everyone. How were the holiday weekends?
3:57 amMert (talk/contribs)Good luck. This must be the slowest conversation ever. Image:Smile.gif
3:43 amBlueRidge (talk/contribs)Just for today....looks like a short day trip week for me....I'm hoping.
3:15 amMert (talk/contribs)Hey, Randy! Home this week too?
3:00 amBlueRidge (talk/contribs)Good Morning Mert Image:Hello.gif
2:43 amMert (talk/contribs)Good morning, Wheatheads.
1:34 amBlueRidge (talk/contribs)g'nite Jim
1:33 amAtuuschaaw (talk/contribs)Image:Bye.gif Good night Jim!
1:32 amJim (talk/contribs)Image:Smile.gif I dunno. It's gonna be a tough call. I 'spose as long as just about every song has a tag or two for it, even if they aren't 100% accurate, it'll help make it possible to hear the song in a show.

Yup - good morning and, from here, good night! Image:Goodnight.gif
1:30 amBlueRidge (talk/contribs)Good Morning
1:30 amBlueRidge (talk/contribs)Image:Hello.gif atu
1:29 amBlueRidge (talk/contribs)Solo artists go into studio and use other artists to lay down tracks....sounds like a band, feels like a band, looks like a band... but Image:Dunno.gif
1:29 amAtuuschaaw (talk/contribs)Image:Hello.gif Good morning BR!
1:28 amAtuuschaaw (talk/contribs)Tagmania! Image:Lol.gif
1:27 amBlueRidge (talk/contribs)Image:Hello.gif Good Morning
1:04 amAtuuschaaw (talk/contribs)Mosquitoes + Canines = heartworms....take care!
12:59 amAtuuschaaw (talk/contribs)Image:Double_yikes.gif I've been mapped! Image:Lol.gif
12:47 amAtuuschaaw (talk/contribs)Image:Wavingicon.gif Good morning my friends!
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